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#1 2008-12-02 08:35:55

Taylor
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Recording the band

I am looking for a way to record my band. I've budgeted for a computer based program with mics and stuff but that wont come for at least a year (if the budget does pass.) How do you record your band? Do you know of any smaller devises that work? This would be for the purpose of listening back and evaluating, not making a CD or anything fancy.
Thanks!

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#2 2008-12-02 08:49:38

mrg149
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Re: Recording the band

I am using my classroom computer, BLUE Snoball USB microphone and AUDACITY (a freeware program you can download). The quality has been very good and has opened up some ears in my band.


P.S. I like your "avatar" ;)

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#3 2008-12-02 08:58:59

KStarrWU
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Re: Recording the band

I have a Zoom H2, and I love it!  Very easy to use, and it makes great sounding recordings!  I think the cost was between $100-200.  It connects via USB to your computer, and it's simple to transfer the files and burn CDs.  I agree, it really helps students understand what they ACTUALLY sound like!

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#4 2008-12-02 09:06:46

Ted Henderson
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Re: Recording the band

I use my camcorder. As a bonus, I get to evaluate my conducting. Later, if I want to share something with the band, the visual seems to keep their attention better than the audio alone.

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#5 2008-12-02 09:21:11

SHP
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Re: Recording the band

We use the Superscope recorder.  It's compact and works well both for concerts and classroom.  I just plug it in, test the settings, and record.  And it burns the CD.

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#6 2008-12-02 10:29:57

Mr. H
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Re: Recording the band

I use an older model Marantz CD recorder.  I only use one mike and point it away from the band , as far away from the room as possible.  It can get expensive because you have to finalize the CD to play it on anything other than the recorder itself, but I like it.

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#7 2008-12-02 12:37:47

tke203
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Re: Recording the band

I use my Mac laptop w/ iSight... then put it online for the kids to evaluate and practice with.  It seems to be helpful. 
Last year I just bought a cheap digital recorder and then would plug it in to a computer with speakers for them to hear.  That was a simple purchase at Radio Shack for less than $50.  The sound quality is not that great, though, and I had to put the recorder at the back of the auditorium to get a decent sound.

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#8 2008-12-02 13:54:45

cougtpt1
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Re: Recording the band

I bought a Marantz solid state recorder with built in condensor mics.  OSudns great and is very easy to use.  $400.

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#9 2008-12-02 14:22:59

mparunak
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Re: Recording the band

The Zoom H2 recorder is the way to go.  I use mine all time to record anything (concert bands, marching bands, tuba ensembles, ...everything) and it DOESN'T distort.  Definitely worth the investment. Easy to use, records to .mp3, awesome.

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#10 2008-12-02 15:54:31

drumminmama
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Re: Recording the band

If you have SmartMusic that also records decently. Iuse that a lot for recording with the method books.

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#11 2008-12-02 16:09:14

wrank
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Re: Recording the band

The Zoom H2 is great.  If you have a good microphone and a computer, Audacity works really well too (and it's free)!

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#12 2008-12-02 18:43:35

bandlady74
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From: Hudson Valley, NY
Registered: 2008-04-27
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Re: Recording the band

I use the Belkin Tune Talk Stereo, which attaches right to my iPod.  For such a tiny thing it provides amazing fidelity.  The iPod saves the recording as a voice memo, and as soon as we've recorded I plug the iPod into my stereo with a "Y" cable so the kids can immediately hear what they did.  I also load the recordings into my Mac at home and put them up on my teacher website for everyone in the family to hear.  (The website is password protected to take care of copyright issues.)

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#13 2008-12-02 19:56:27

Christine Nowmos
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From: Woodstown, NJ
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Re: Recording the band

As mrg149 mentioned, you can download Audacity, a digital recording program, for free. http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
The only other thing you'd need, if you're just doing it for rehearsal purposes and don't need a "professional" quality recording is any microphone and an adapter so that you can hook the microphone into the line-in or microphone jack of your computer.
Even a mic like you use for announcements at concerts will work (put it on a stand) - but just look at what kind of connection it has at the end of the cable to check if it's a 1/4" plug or an XLR plug (the 3-pronged kind).  The line in or microphone jack in your computer (usually right next to where your computer speakers get plugged in) will be an 1/8" jack.  Then, go to Radio Shack (or you can find easily online) and buy an adapter so you can plug the mic in - if you have a 1/4" plug, you would want a 1/4" female to 1/8" male adapter or cable; if you have  an XLR connection, you'd want an XLR female to 1/8" male adapter or cable.  You can usually get one of these for under $20 or so. 

There are one or two settings on your computer that you have to check to make sure that you can record through the line in or microphone jack... if you have Windows, couble click on the little speaker icon in the bottom right hand corner of your screen.  Choose Options, then Properties, then select Recording.  Click OK.  Then, you'll see a box that says Recording Control.  If there is an option to check Microphone or Line-In, make sure that you select the jack that your microphone is plugged into (and, make sure Mute is not selected).  YOu can also adjust the recording levels by sliding up and down, so if you do a recording and find that the recording level is too soft you can turn it up for next time, or if it's distorted you can turn it down (you have to kind of play with it to find the level that works with your group in the space you have).  You would have to look at the instructions for Audacity for how to set up a recording track, but it's pretty simple.  Basically the cheapest way to go, if you already have a microphone, all you have do buy is the adapter - it'll at least tide you over until you get all your new equipment, without having to shell out a lot of money in the meantime.  AND as an added bonus, you can actually make mp3 or wav files with Audacity, so if your computer has a CD burner you can make a CD of your recording (or, you could post your mp3 to the web if you're so inclined!). 

I've also used the sound recorder on my mp3 player, works ok in a pinch but the built in mic isn't very good (I might use it for evaluating but not for something I'd make into a CD).  I haven't tried this but you can do a line in recording (again, you'd need an adapter to make sure your mic had the right connection to fit into the line-in jack), and that might sound a little better. (I have a Creative Zen, rather than an iPod.)

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#14 2008-12-03 08:05:45

Taylor
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Re: Recording the band

Thank you so much for your extreme help! Three of you have mentioned the Zoom H2. How does it play back? Do I need audacity? (my school computer is SO slow.) Can I hook it to my sterio speakers? I do have my computer connected to my stereo speakers too if that helps. I have a mac at home, so would I be able to use garage band with it? Also, is the sound quality good enough to record accompaniment tracks on the school piano and then burn it to CD that way?
You MENC people are such a help!

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#15 2008-12-03 08:22:34

BDTubaGuy
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Re: Recording the band

Hrm.. I wonder if we could convince the MENC site guys to let some of the forum members start a FAQ or guide section?  When I asked this question on the old boards, the answers were just as good.  The wealth of knowledge here is amazing.

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#16 2008-12-03 08:57:24

rgmiller77
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Re: Recording the band

I use the Roland Edirol R-09 Mp3 Recorder.  It's hand held, fits in my pocket, has two condenser mics built in with an input to plug in more.  With an 8th inch chord can plug right into the stereo for immediate playback.  Can later plug in to a USB and download each .wav or mp3 file to my computer.  I love it:  no big production, kids sometimes don't even realize they were recorded, it's fast and easy.

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#17 2008-12-03 09:12:37

mparunak
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Re: Recording the band

Playback on the H2 Zoom is simple.  Just plug in an external speaker source into the headphones jack and it will play back.  You can also plug it into your computer via USB, then just drag the audio from the Zoom to your desktop and play them through itunes. You don't need to use audacity to playback the recordings.  Be sure to set the recorder to record to mp3 to make things easy.  It uses SD cards for memory, and you can get 20 hours of recording on a 2GB SD card.  You can use Garageband with it, just import the audio to it.  The sound quality is great, and accompaniment tracks would be very high quality.

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#18 2008-12-03 09:27:29

robertstrauch
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Re: Recording the band

The Roland Edirol is awesome.  Fits in your pocket and makes high fidelity recordings, either mp3, or wave, and you can download it to your PC and burn it to a CD.

The downside is the price.  You will want to find a music store that gives school discounts.

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#19 2008-12-03 09:42:18

1rv
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Re: Recording the band

I have an H4 that I like, it cost a bit more than the H2 though, I think the main difference is that the H4 has more options for pluging in external mics

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#20 2008-12-09 22:30:13

pmilsted
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Re: Recording the band

I am also looking to record band rehearsals. I have looked around on the internet and found several different recording devices. I am looking for something simple to use. Anybody know anything about the CD-2e Roland or the Superscope PSD 330? Would these be the right kinds of products to consider? In one of my other buildings we have a microtrack recorder and it works pretty well. But I am looking for something that I can record and play without having to transfer the file to itunes to listen to it. I want immediate playback and the ability to burn the file to a cd in the same machine. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks

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#21 2008-12-09 23:10:00

mparunak
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Re: Recording the band

I have used the Marantz Professional CDR310.  It has an internal hard drive and you can burn to cd.  Just search for it.  Really good quality and super easy to use.

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